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Veteran Car Histories

19/5/2014

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Tracing car histories can be interesting and rewarding but needs patience too.

Recently, a list of the 1911 registration plate numbers’ owners’ (not car makes) for Dunedin became available in private hands. Generously we were advised that my grandfather owned plate number    D 18 in 1911 at that time.

We have a family photograph dated Feb 1910 showing the family including the +/- 18 month old baby (my father born 1908) in an unidentified car. We published the family photo 15 years ago in BW247 seeking identification for the vehicle. Only one response, from England suggested that the car was an early Briton.  The radiator shape certainly appears this way. But Briton was formed in 1909 as part of the Star (UK) company, and therefore this brand car could not have been here in NZ this early. The advent of digital photo enhancement allowed us to enlarge the photo in 2005, and reading the radiator oval badge was ‘Goodwin & Co, Birmingham’- a non Ferrous Casting company. More puzzles.

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In 2011, by chance I noticed, an enquiry in Beaded Wheels asked for information on a Rollert (the name on the screw cap) radiator. This radiator has the same oval badge of “Goodwin & Co, Birmingham” on the front. In 2012 we physically compared the radiator (now owned by Bob Woodford of Dunedin) with the photograph, and yes they match exactly.  Interesting, but who are they?

In 2013 Mr Google search helped us more. The Goodwin Bros were racing cyclists in the UK in early 1900’s, and for 2 years were (unsuccessful)  racing drivers for the Star motor Coy of Wolverhampton. My grandfather was a cash racing cyclist in NZ and South Africa from 1897 to 1903- maybe they met, but more likely is that the Goodwins’ were a UK car sub agent.

Researching in Georgano reference book quotes that Star Motor Company changed and used several brands in 1907-1909. They used Stuart, Starling, Star, Little Starling brands before settling on Star and Briton brands only from 1909. Several vehicle dealers in NZ promoted the Stuart and Star brands before 1908 (refer Papers Past site). 

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A Stuart car factory brochure from the UK history site illustrates that brand car with a Briton profile radiator and sold in 1908 only -Bingo- the balance of probabilities is that this is the brand of photographed car, and probably Grandfather (an engineer) soldered the oval badge on the car himself.

Overall, and interesting history search lasting 15 years and resulting in;-

· The original radiator exists and is in good condition.  Bob the current owner is now looking for the rest of the car.

· Unfortunately our family verbal history advised that the car was abandoned mid- stream in the flooded Kaikorai Stream- I hope that is wrong!.

· Many other verbal family stories about the car arriving dismantled in a box are recalled- but no confirmation exists.

· My need/addiction to own a similar Briton version started- and it is a fun car.


3 Comments
dion Coleman
27/12/2014 06:33:03 am

I have recently acquired a radiator badge for Goodwin and Company so there was at least another car in NZ.

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Neale lawson
11/9/2016 12:38:59 pm

I have researched the Star Cos.for 60 years having two a 1905 and 1925 which was my father's who retired from the UK to Hawkes bay where I visited him
The British Star cars were known as Stuarts in New Zealand, the reason being I believe is that there was a Star Cycle Company in Christchurch NZ and I suspect Star and Star Cycle Co (making the Stuart or Royal Starling as they were called in 1908) were prevented from using the Star name. I am intrigued that Goodwin Birmingham is on the badge as Goodwin ran The Star Motor Agency in London and I am not aware he had any connection with Birmingham. I will do some more research on that.
Is it possible to have the Stuart (or Star ) registrations from Dunedin? I collected the Wellington ones some years ago
If you wish me to do any more research I would be delighted.
Regards Neale Lawson

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Jerry link
19/12/2024 05:46:58 pm

Thannk you

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